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Ha, let it be noted that Jimmie's speed is 10 times the speed of your basic DSL connection. I think Roadrunner's top business plan in my location 15 D /2 Up is $500 a month. So it's nowhere near practical to be running cloud applications or full backups daily.

Isn't that 0.6Mb/s or am I off by one decimal.

645 KiloBytes (KB) = 5160 Kilobits (Kb) = 5 Megabits (Mb) = 0.63 Megabytes (MB)

If you have change to MB instead of Mb then you are correct.

Just as a comparison, the average DSL connection is 384 Kilobits or 512 Kilobits.

So if you do the math, Jimmie's 5160 kilobits / 512 kilobits = 10 times the difference or 13.5 times in faster in the case of 384 kilobits.

So if we take a look at Jimmie's 875 MB of data at a rate of 0.63 MB/s (who said that physics stuff wouldn't come in handy? lol, d=rt). 875 MB / 0.63 MB/s = 1388 seconds or 23 minutes minimum assuming a consistent maximum speed of 645 KB/s. Which means Jimmie's 15 minute estimate might be a little optimistic. But the main take away here is that if you are on DSL, what takes Jimmie 25 minutes would take you close to 4 hours.

Thanks.

Just as a reference I did a similar analysis in the server recommendation thread for people with .enc files that were roughly 2GB which is average if you have been with AC for 3-5 years with all those IIs and what not. That's 12 hours on a DSL line. So my basically my recommendation is #1 have a strong onsite backup and local backup. #2 would be to backup the database offsite without imports and upload them to your offsite service of choice as well as keeping the imported items incremental. Incremental meaning only the stuff that was added that day gets uploaded rather than the entire folder daily.

I didn't have my stop watch and was "guesstimating" a bit but the 23 minutes is likely more accurate--although there is some variation in speed of about 25 KB/s either way at any time during the upload.

I also every night with a separate external hard drive do an appended full system backup that takes about 3-4 minutes.

attaboy...

backup backup backup!!!!
Bert I can only blame you for recommending the full system backup, quite a while ago.

I'll happily take the blame, lol.

Let me correct my statement above, which is wrong. When using Amazing Backup to backup Imported Items, you create a completely new .enc file with the title "practice name_acct_date_time.enc". This is found in the C:/Programs/AmazingCharts/Backups as well as the designated backup location, and does not overwrite the previous backup, which has a different date & time stamp. Sorry for the misinformation.

Reminder to everyone is that you need to go into that AC/Backups folder and delete stuff out frequently so that you don't have space all used up on your hard drive. There is no way to get around having it in that folder unfortunately and there is no way to make it automatically delete files from that folder each week or each month.

WE have our front desk manually delete files weekly

Or you can delete them automatically.

My own 2 cents which is probably what it is worth :-)
I have set AC to back up automatically to a folder monitored by a cloud service (dropbox). After it backs up it automatically is pushed to a cloud and then the cloud pushes it back down to mirror on my office machines as well as my home machine. I would need to have 5 hard drives crash simultaneously plus the online server to go down to lose my data. Had to restore my system once when I changed server boxes and went smooth with no problems. Costs me $10 a month and for an additional $5 a month they will save the deleted backups as well. Never can have too many backups....

I'm not sure but what level of encryption does dropbox use. Overall this sounds good.

I use Crashplan to bounce both the backups and the import items folder between the two offices.

Crashplan and Dropbox are two totally different things. Crashplan is an online storage and backup with all the bells and whistles of Carbonite, iBackup, etc. While Dropbox has a lot more features lately, it's still major function is to allow computers to connect using Dropbox.

Crashplan is in the clouds and backs up your data automatically. You can access it from other PCs, but it doesn't automatically push the data to the other dropbox.

The other thing about Dropbox, which I use sometimes for file sharing (unless it has changed) is that once you upload a document, it is there forever. You can delete it, but it is not truly deleted. Tech support has to delete it. That stopped me from using it as I didn't want anyone seeing my files later.

The only issue is that DropBox is probably not HIPAA compliant. You can probably make it compliant by taking certain steps.

http://amazingcharts.com/ub/ubbthreads.php/topics/45868/Is_Backup_on_Dropbox_or_Jungle

They also agree that they are not HIPAA compliant:
https://www.dropbox.com/help/238/en