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#22536 07/08/2010 4:59 PM
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I did not make it to the ACUC and I'm sure there was discussion on the Ipad.

Does anyone have any new info on Ipad Iphone programs for AC.
Has anyone used logmein or a similar program on the Ipad to log in an use AC. Very curious....

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I have use Logmein on the iPhone. It does work, but is cumbersome because of the small screen and funky way of moving and clicking, especially double-clicking. I used it when I was WAY away from a computer and needed to do a small tasks.. prescribing a medication, I think. I, too, would like to hear about iPad use, especially from anyone who can compare the iPad/iPhone versions.


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Jay,

I brought mine along and several people took it (and LogMeIn Ignition) for a test drive. It is very useful for looking at info on/in AC, and with the advent of the AC iPhone/iPad release, it will be an even better app for checking things.

The consensus of the folks who tried it didn't think it would work well in a clinical setting as a replacement for a computer in the exam room for making chart notes. The perspective might be somewhat different if it was docked with a keyboard, but still an inferior charting solution.

My recommendation was that folks who are thinking about tablets hold off until this fall/winter when several different products release that will re-define the tablet/multi-touch again.

As a reading/browsing device the iPad excels and I use it for my evening reader while my Kindle collects dust by the bedside.

It is also particularly useful for ad-hoc meetings, note-taking, and quick lookups of info.

There are several specialized medical apps that might make it useful for you, you might want to browse the App store - here is one link to med app reviews; (http://www.imedicalapps.com/reviews/) if anyone has a web resource that is a better, please add it to thread.

As an example of some of the great niche apps for the iPad, here is an app that my lovely bride uses regularly (http://sites.google.com/site/islateclapperboard/).


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I love my IPAD - the app that Jon is developing will be great for looking at information - good for hospital rounds where I want to look up meds/last chart note, but entering data would be a pain.

I agree with Indy - neat and useful, but would wait for other tablet PC/slates to arrive this year.


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Steven,

I think the iPad would be great for me. It would be perfect given our hospital.

I could open it and turn it on. And, I would click on some messaging app, which would say, "Bert, you gave up your privileges, remember? You don't ever have to step into that hospital again."


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The iPad looks neat, but I've got an iTouch and a netbook (ASUS eeePC) for about the same cost. I've got logmein ignition on the itouch to look up stuff on Amazing Charts on the go. The itouch easily clips on my belt; the ipad - no.

When I need to actually type in info over logmein I've got the netbook with a full physical keyboard. Plus the netbook has USB ports and a slot for SD card. So I can use it to connect to other peripherals like digital camera.

I like the iPad idea for reading books - looking forward to that when I retire - never seem to make the time now!


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My evening reading is typically technical blogs/websites, scanning logs, tracking technical forums, researching dev issues, and tagging articles for further review.

Read my first book via the Kindle app on the iPad on the flight and delays incoming to ACUC.

Since the display is lit, it is a great device for reading in bed - no other light required.





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Thanks for the posts.

I use my iphone for looking up info, labs, scanned documents, etc, when I am doing a home visit. Very helpful. The tiny keyboard of course has limited the usefulness, as David has mentioned.

I was playing with the idea of getting a bluetooth keyboard that is iphone compatible. If that really works, it could make it much more useful. Has anyone tried that out already?

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Originally Posted by JayAlilin
I was playing with the idea of getting a bluetooth keyboard that is iphone compatible. If that really works, it could make it much more useful. Has anyone tried that out already?

I have (infrequently) used the wireless Apple bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone; as with most things Apple, it works great. It is very useful for a lot of text entry, like long email replies or entering a lot of Contacts. I can't say I use it a lot, since it is about 5 times the size of my iPhone, so sort of defeats the purpose. I think it would be more practical matched up with an iPad, size-wise.


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Google and other app developers have successfully integrated voice, with little "training" of the VR, to current iphone/ipad apps. I think a functional AC app with VR would work great for physicians and charting...Either way, the future of tablet/slate/ipad is very promising...

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There is continued news of great Android tablets in the pipeline for later this year, and I suspect that in the next year there will be one or more tablets that can effectively run a LogMeIn session to your desktop that you can chart with/on.

I continue to find new things that I can do with my 'X' [besides taunting Bert :P ].

The arrival of tablets will bring the subject of terminal servers and virtual machines back to the fore as viable alternatives.


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You're just jealous because I have the "X" and you don't. No..wait..it's the other way around.

He promised me this week. The Verizon guy. He did, I swear.

So, Indy, when are you going to tell this Microsoft guy with SBS 2008 and soon to be Droid X owner and maybe HTC Incredible (just because of the vibrating buttons and the Sense UI, how the iPad can help me out there. I would love to own one if it would fill a void and allow me to do things I can't do now.

It would be fun to own an Aa..Appp...help me say it..Apple. I dated a Fiona Apple once, but that is as close as I got. To an Apply product, that is.


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So, I am off to bed knowing I will wake up to some nice information from Indy. smile


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Bert - I probably shouldn't rub it in by telling you my lovely bride will have her matching 'X' before you. *smile*

Cool things you can do with an iPad:

<1>You're a Pediatrician! All kinds of kid fun you could hand to kids while talking with parents/guardians. Might distract them while doing some exam/procedure stuff, but you're the kid Doc.

<2>Carry it around to show short education videos. Working with a few Docs who are doing videos - exam room lectures of subjects that art near and dear to their hearts - with a plan to build a library of these - you would be welcome to join in, have you edited in to each of the finished pieces to intro/recap, make them part of your own.

<3>Test/use the mobile apps we're crafting. But that is another subject for another locale - no plugs here.

<4>The very best portable reader/instant-on note taking device currently out there.

<5>LogMeIn Ignition (if you rolled that way)


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Thanks Indy,

I just roll period. smile


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So ..... any of those good enough reason for you to use an iPad?

I hear there is a connector dongle that turns your iPhone/Pad into a multifunction IR remote these days - you could use that with your home theater.

I don't think there are any apps that turn them into actual Fluke meters though.


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Originally Posted by Indy
So ..... any of those good enough reason for you to use an iPad?

Just to drive Bert mad...if you had one, you'd be able to find at least a dozen new reasons to use it.


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How did you know I needed a Fluke meter? Did I tell you my story.

And, as far as the iPad and X and Incredible..."I dont care."
(to be said in the voice of the animated girl on You Tube) Man was that funny.



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I can't believe Bert does not have an IPAD - I know it was hard for me to buy apple too, but I actually like my IPOD touch and being over 40 the large print IPAD is much better ( I know I could go to eye doctor, but I am a procrastinator).


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The Ipad with logmein ignition is great - allows you to bring up your computer with full access to AC - really great for hospital rounds to look up chart notes, use as reference for dictation, etc. Not sure how usefull would be for entering a chart note as the keyboard is limited for input, but certainly a valuable tool.


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I use my iPad daily, often in the morning and again in he evening.

When it comes to input on other than full keyboards, I have become a devotee of Swype, and no longer having to type with two thumbs. You drag your finger across the letters that you want, and the software guesses the word you want from your path, where you pause, and where you turn.

I was intrigued by Swype, but waited until I was in line for twenty minutes and turned it on and experimented. Twenty minutes later I was sending texts almost as fast as teens, and amazed at it's ability to guess correctly ~85% of the time.

Still no replacement for a full keyboard, but it does make me wonder about a 10 inch tablet with a Swype interface teamed with LMI ignition.


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Swype is awesome. Drawbacks include difficulty seeing what you are typing. I have difficult time quickly backspacing over a word. Also, in X the period key is in a bad place, and there needs to be a shortcut to a period.

Good or bad point: Makes texting in car impossible. (just a point -- I know you shouldn't) Or if you do, it is highly dangerous. Maybe use Swype with voice to text. It does guess correctly amazingly well. I am not sure if the Guinness Book of World Records for fastest text on a touch screen using Swype. The paragraph was:

"The razor-toothed piranhas of the genera Serrasalmus and Pygocentrus are the most ferocious freshwater fish in the world. In reality they seldom attack a human" in 35.5 seconds.

This has since been broken and done in 24 seconds and, of course, by hundreds on YouTube. But, what they fail to realize is that the person setting the record at the Guinness Book of World Records did not have the luxury of seeing the paragraph ahead of time. Just knowing what the paragraph is gives one a huge advantage. I am sure they are all able to practice.

It is interesting to note that when the inventors of Swype went to Apple, they were interested, however they declined after they heard it was being offered to other companies with different operating systems.


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Originally Posted by Bert
It is interesting to note that when the inventors of Swype went to Apple, they were interested, however they declined after they heard it was being offered to other companies with different operating systems.


I have developed on-and-off the Apple platform ~ 20 years, and their Not Invented Here (NIH) reputation is legendary and well earned.

Bert, I know that you are a fast typist, but for your average user, imagine a 10 inch tablet with Swype (and a larger screen so that you could see the letters) as a work tool, that could be what the iPad isn't.


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But, it will never happen, because now Steve doesn't like Flash or Swype.


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I should make myself clear; it will happen, but it will be an Android tablet. Steve is going to be HATIN' Android.


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I use iTap RDP to remote desktop into my windows server from an iphone, ipod touch, or ipad. It has a nice gesture & double-clicking interface that makes even the small screens pretty usable. You need to set up terminal services/remote desktop protocol but I find it better than logmein on these devices.

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Paul,

I agree only from the Android front. I downloaded LogMeIn, and it works rather well, but I finally got RDP to work on the X, and it is still quicker, one tap and you're in. And, it does seem smoother.


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Bump. Any news on an ipad point and click addition to AC, or any point and click application really?

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My MA uses iPad to room patients entering vitals etc. It works for us. We access AC using the citrix server

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