Well, I have a copy of Kasperski but the girls at support had not a clue as to what I was talking about. That would be my first try if I knew it worked. I'm not too found of this AVG I didn't like the controls, they were not always obvious (it was really late though, so...) But I couldn't even find the stupid "off" switch so I could install AC on one of the machines and know that the install would go smoothly. All I was able to find was off for the firewall, but not the other stuff. I may just try the Kasperski with the new tower anyway, because it was sent RAID 0 and I really want to redo it in 1, and the lady at Dell last night said that redoing the RAID would mean wiping it out and reloading everything, so at least this way I'll be putting it on a machine I'm just gonna clean anyway.. SO if it sucks or doesn't work with AC, it just a couple of day experiment.

Wayne, what do you think about Zone Alarm? Are the screens friendly, are the controls "there"? This AVG is so not "there". You click on what you think should start taking to what you need to mess with and like "you can't get there from here". I really liked my old Trend in terms of great access to settings, and things you could see and do, all with be kind of understandable...

But don't you guys agree that we need some sort of place to read from AC home base emerging "Trends" so guys like me aren't banging our heads into brick walls for days? Oh the locks of hair I pulled out over the last few days....

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