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With UpDox getting the capability of having patients do their own scheduling and demographic updates, I'm really feeling myself lured to that function, and all the calls and front desk time it sounds like it might save. My staff and I have some worries, however. I'd really like feedback from those who may have used a system like this. Here are some of the concerns.

1) Patient "just wants prescriptions refilled", books brief appointment when it is really time for complete re-evaluation.
2) Receptionist knows that patient Jones always needs 45 minutes because she is a "talker", but online schedule only says "re-visit."
3) There are "discretionary" times receptionist knows she can invade if problem sounds important. Receptionist able to triage.
4) Sudden increase in "tech support" calls about how to use this feature (already an issue with UpDox portal).
5) Receptionist having to reconfirm all demographics anyway to uncover misunderstanding by patient when entering data.

Are these concerns real or imagined? Those of you who have ever used a system like this, was it great or more pain than it was worth?


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Well, we may have some of these problems, but some of them exist regardless of how you schedule. Also, no system will be perfect...even your receptionist.

For example, for 3) there is typically an ability to "Override" the standard appointment rules and adjust the length for a particular appointment, or force a double-book.

For 1)this can happen anyway. Maybe less frequently with a good receptionist/scheduler. I review all externally booked appointments and personally approve them (or deny them).


2) Talkers just have to shut up and leave. Sometimes Dr C is the talker. I have no problem knocking on the door and telling her she has been in there too long and other patients are waiting.

Demographics..sometimes there are mistakes. I am usually shocked that our supposedly college-educated patients cannot figure out their insurance id number. But its usually ok. They almost always get the first name, last name and address correct.


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Some of the need for self scheduling depends on how far advanced you are booked. If it is less than a week then your receptionist can fine tune the schedule that is uploaded (I guess) in the morning. If it is several weeks it may be better to leave it offline, otherwise you find surprises weeks to months later.


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The trick is to be pretty much "Open Access" with modestly equal visit lengths. Some will be shorter and some will be longer and hopefully they sort of even themselves out. Also you are alway welcome and the patients need to know this, that YOU are the doctor and the doctor's office and if you feel it needs more or less, then that's Your Call.

Also, Nancy took to doing something unique with our two Biggest PIA's, super frequent fliers to make life around here for HER a good deal easier. Both get a small amount of controlled meds too, so regular appointments on a specific data is great. Also we have a 28 day supply policy around here, with almost everybody getting filled on Tuesdays. Even Thanksgiving doesn't have a Tuesday in it, right? So now we have almost NO over the weekend "I've run out of this or that", need to call in the Emergency Supply, have a follow up visit post the weekend and writing to Rx's...

So she has both of these ladies show up one before lunch and then the other after lunch... So if the major borderline one runs over as she almost always does... so we have a bit of room for that and she can sit by herself in her wheelchair comfortably and not making too much of a scene with the other patients because usually nobody's here exect walk in refills and the like. Then she takes care of the younger one who sadly is pretty messed up too and delussional in terms of common sense day to day take care of herself, no less her kids... And now the week can almost never get worse from there.... And we always know where they are, repeating visits always blocked for the two of them, one once a month or so and the other every week lately that is how much hand holding she needs...

Anyway, you can always con and nudge your difficult patients different ways and done properly like the lady who is so flippin' borderline it is mind blowing.... she is being given this "Special" above and beyond everyone else slot as far as she is concerned... And yet really for us it allows her to completely ruin the flow of the day, even the week sometimes.

But we are a low voluum low patient panel place and offer half hour slots and then we know where we can fudge them in for last minutes sick kids and other pop ups... Or with some of our walk-ins (yeah we're doing that too the last year or so... BUT only for established patients, NO NEWBIES get walk in status no matter what) I can look at them and tell them where things look empty and I'll pop them in the a slot an hour or two later and say you're welcome to hang-out if you have no place to go or do, but let me lock this in for you now and then you can go get a bite or get a few things done and come back a little later... usually they're glad to know that I've locked it up for them...

Or I'll ask them what's up and they'll say they are not feeling well and they wanted half a list of stuff too and I'll tell them well, I can squeeze you in for the sore throat and stuffed up ears and face, a Quick Sick visit for right now and how about coming back in a few days when you feel better to deal with your BP or med adjustment which might go better anyway when you're not snorting decongestants anyway??? And again, its all in the presentation and if our tiny waiting room is full (all four chairs worth) or getting there as they all know it's just basically her in the room and me up front around here.... So they get it. They're all so glad to have a doc they can get in with, who actually listens and talks to them without his or her hand on the door knob, its rarely a problem...

It basically all about nudging, schmoozing and playing a little bit of checkers with the folks... Night.

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Looking at the replay of the webinar, I can see some areas where this might be very useful. We can start by just allowing "Sick" appointments for a defined time period for the two PA's who mostly see work-ins. We as a practice need to decide to what degree we are willing to change our basic method of scheduling vs. how much the online service can be adjusted to fit our current flow and practice desires. It is clear that many of you handle specific appointment issues quite differently than we. Thanks for the input.


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