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#79624 03/12/2024 8:34 PM
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I am in major chart clean up mode - is there an easy way to see a report for duplicate charts? Did I miss something obvious for that?

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Can you explain exactly what you mean by "duplicate charts"?


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A patient who accidently has two charts open. Maybe they were a patient 6 years ago, they come back to care, and the staff at the time don't realize that they had an inactive chart already.

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No easy way I have found. One problem with using Caretracker as the PM/Billing is that if an address or something changes for a pt it has to be done in Caretracker and then allowed to update AC. If done in AC first caretracker will make a duplicate chart in AC.

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Sabbath I am afraid I don't know any easy way either.


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I feel like this needs to be a thing. If your email can easily scan through your contacts and suggest duplicates - surely AC can.

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I just don't see it as being a large amount of duplicates. I only notice when a refill comes in and doesn't seem to match or I know I have seen a pt in the past and there is nothing in the chart.

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Someone has better control of their charts than I do ;-)

This clinic has a far number of duplicates. It’s an issue.

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This may not be what you want to hear, but your efforts may be best spent educating staff about being more careful creating the duplicates going forward.


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Oh trust me - that's absolutely happening.

I just individually inactivated (one. at. a. time) 10,000 + patients that hadn't been seen in 48+ months. 10k.

There's a lot of chart clean ups that need to happen.

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Wait...what????

I see you are in Des Moines. Population about 200k. You just deactivated charts on 5% of the population.

How many ACTIVE patients do you have?


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Pfffft - Des Moines/West Des Moines Metro population is 700k.

And this is going back since 2013. We have 7,750 active patients (patients that have been seen within the last 3 years).

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Still... sounds like quite the successful practice. And you have your hands full!


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We stay busy, that's for sure! 4 providers, and all the staff to support them. We've got a really great crew!

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Lot smaller here and only 3 front office staff so a lot easier to control. WOW 10,000+

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No easy way! Duplicates were driving me insane. And our patient population has two last names (hispanic) so if they say the other last name, then a new chart could be created.

One hack is train your staff to ask for the DOB when a patient calls. You can search by DOB in the patient list but this is not a default setting to have the DOB box shown.

The other thing we did is change the workflow on the new patient process so that only 1 person creates new patient charts (excluding newborns but these USUALLY don't result in duplicates).


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Sounds like it's time to dig out my de-duplication program that merges patient charts into the one that was created last.

Speaking of patient count, I'm currently converting an Allscripts database with 131,483 patients. The largest AC database I have ever converted is 20,134 patients.

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Sabbath, can I ask, why do you use AC? I thought only small 1-2 provider offices use AC. With 4 providers, aren't you paying a lot to use a program whose features doesn't match the competition like Athena, ecw, etc.? Or maybe AC is better and I don't know. I've never used other EMR, just heard of what they can do that AC can't. I would love to use a pediatric centric EMR but our 1 provider does not want to learn a new program.


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We use it because, if I’m being frank, we are owned by a 75 year old doctor who doesn’t want to completely overhaul the practice in the 5 remaining years he has before he sells the practice.

He simply won’t. We’ve actually tried and NOPE.

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I am in the exact same situation. Boomer owner not willing to change. Retirement on the horizon.


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Yeah those darn boomers!
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Haha. I was trying to be discreet about the age but I guess I should have selected a more PC term. Lets just say a older person who is not fond of complicating their lives any more than necessary. laugh


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@Sabbath

Should have taken me up on my offer of having SQL IT do it. 10,000 charts inactivated in less than 10 seconds.


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No offense taken! I answer to "boomer" as well as "older person who is not fond of complicating their lives any more than necessary".


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I prefer dinosaur!

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I considered it. But the same “boomer boss” is really nervous about anything IT related that he doesn’t understand. I tried ;-)

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For the 1000th time, I am sure a SQL expert or even a SQL super novice could locate all those duplicate charts with one query. In seconds.


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