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January 2020 is the last month of support for Windows 7 - along with Windows Server 2008 R2.

Effectively, Windows 7 becomes the next Windows XP.

Please plan your upgrades accordingly as running non-supported software may invalidate your HIPAA/HiTrust/Other assessments and credentials.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet

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OOOH I can't wait to upgrade to Windows 8 mad


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If you didn't take the free upgrade option to Windows 10, you can just plan on replacing all your computers by 2020 (they will need it anyway) with Windows 10 Pro installed. I've done this and it works well. I'm slowly replacing the old computers running Windows 7 with this as they wear out/age out.


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Originally Posted by JamesNT
January 2020 is the last month of support for Windows 7 - along with Windows Server 2008 R2.

Effectively, Windows 7 becomes the next Windows XP.

Please plan your upgrades accordingly as running non-supported software may invalidate your HIPAA/HiTrust/Other assessments and credentials.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet

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Maybe my clients will want Win whatever by then, or they may determine that it doesn't invalidate their requirements, and can run Win7 on their Linux host until they retire. Whatever floats your boat.

Or port the App to RedHat (supported), since SQL now runs on Linux, with Ubu desktops and wave goodbye to the Borg. Just Sayin'


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But how difficult will it be to port the app to linux. Sure Microsoft SQL is now linux supported but what about the other links?


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Damn I'm still running some programs in an XP VM on a Win 7 Pro Host, still planning to move it(XP VM and said other programs) to a Win 10 machine with Hyper V however getting grief my office manager about having to do the 3 key press to release the mouse from within the XP VM to return to the Win 10 host.
If the XP VM doesn't have 'permission' to use the network adapter do I have to worry about..."running non-supported software may invalidate your HIPAA/HiTrust/Other assessments and credentials"?

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Originally Posted by Wendell365
But how difficult will it be to port the app to linux. Sure Microsoft SQL is now linux supported but what about the other links?

WINE runs some Windows programs without tweaks, never tried AC. Sounds like an excellent project for our next Linux intern.

For interfaces, integration, eRX were Java in the past, increasingly web services are the connections now. Linux dominates the web services world, as well as the interaction protocols (e.g JSON, REST, AJAX)

For example, Advanced-MD, long a Windows ONLY shop, have released their JSON API.


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Originally Posted by koby
Damn I'm still running some programs in an XP VM on a Win 7 Pro Host, still planning to move it(XP VM and said other programs) to a Win 10 machine with Hyper V however getting grief my office manager about having to do the 3 key press to release the mouse from within the XP VM to return to the Win 10 host.
If the XP VM doesn't have 'permission' to use the network adapter do I have to worry about..."running non-supported software may invalidate your HIPAA/HiTrust/Other assessments and credentials"?

You'll have to read the pertinent documentation, but a more stringent standard is actually PCI-DSS (credit-card), which requires at-rest encryption, "air-gap" system components other than the encrypted payment channel.

Isolating the system is easily the best way to minimize risk.


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Don't think "...when they pull the hard drive from my cold dead hands" argument will satisfy the requirements either.

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A few general comments as I'm just now getting back to this thread and am pressed for time.

* RE Windows XP
Unless you have a line of business application that simply cannot be replaced, there is no excuse to be running Windows XP. The amount of time and money spent keeping the old OS secure, secluded, and backed up will eventually surpass just replacing it and the reason it is still around - if it hasn't already. Don't put yourself through the headache. Planning is your friend.

* RE Moving Amazing Charts to Linux
I'm not certain why the question about moving AC to Linux. Amazing Charts is written in C# and Visual Basic .Net (I'm certain all the old VB6 code is gone by now). There is a .Net implementation for Linux called Mono so I assume the code base could be moved over there with some work. That being said, the majority of calls that AC tech-support gets have nothing to do with Amazing Charts, rather it is poorly set up networks. That being said, AC would have to either hire Linux gurus or train current staff on Linux just to support AC on that OS for a minority of users. Good luck convincing AC to do that.

RE Linux and Windows 10
I am well aware of the fact that Windows 10 has had some issues. So has every new release of Windows and every new release of software that invokes major changes like Windows 10 did. Even I, a long time supporter of Microsoft, have been vocal about some of the issues that, quite frankly, I don't think should have ever happened. And, there are some high ranking MS employees who agree with me. The world of software development is changing. It seems to be more about "ship now, fix later" as opposed to releasing truly awesome software. MS is also a victim of this change in mindset as is much of the open source software out there if recently discovered flaws are any clue. That being said, do not make a drastic change in infrastructure by switching from Windows to Linux because you believe all your problems with go away. They won't. Or rather, they will. Your existing problems will go away only to be replaced by the new and different problems that come with the new platform. Its easy for me to write off issues with Windows because I have years of experience working around them. So, yes, I'll say things like "Windows ROCKS!" knowing there is a glaring issue over here that I'm just used to dealing with. My polar opposite and friend, Indy, is the same way with Linux.

Recently, I got into a major argument over a Linux kernel issue that members of the Linux community had no problem pushing down as "not a big deal." They had no problem defending their beloved OS despite this issue. Let something like this happen in Windows, and they'll go nuts about the "Borg."

http://www.networkworld.com/article...ally-fixes-6-year-old--critical-bug.html

Our argument went something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd5yB9Vmd6I

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