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Lol that's my personal computer. I don't actually work in the office. I just manage it. I don't think there's even enough room My desktop is on the big side.


We have other stuff as well with Exchange, SharePoint, Faxes, Documents, Folder Redirection, etc. So that wouldn't cut it for us. If you ever fill up, SBS has a simple wizard to move data to a new drive.

Tom,

As far as deleting backups, there is a more efficient, if not quicker, way. It is located in Amazing Utilities under Advanced. You can delete as many backups as you wish. It's probably the same number of clicks, but at least you don't have to go to the server.

You can make a shortcut on your desktop.

How is manually deleting backups more efficient than an automatic script lol?

It isn't. And it isn't easier than a 3rd party program. Just comparing it to what he does already.

Analogy: A friend comes up to me and say, "I really hate walking five miles to work." I tell him, "Then get a bike." Then you say, "Why not get a Porsche 911?"

And, my response was to show how he didn't necessarily have to "go in and manually delete" plus it is only fair to AC to at show they have a better way of doing it, albeit not great.

And Bert says: "I use my own private helicopter"

Gene

Good one, Gene.

Here, you can see me using my private copter to get to my Concorde jet.

That looks more like the new private space shuttle than a Concorde jet.

Nope, it's a Concorde. I paid the thirty million. I ought to know. I am thinking of buying a shuttle. Just waiting for the Concerta rep to come through with the cash.

You Janssen groupie!

See perfect example: Never even heard of Janssen, and yet I prescribe Concerta first line.

It took me 5 dang minutes on the internet to figure it out!!!!

To figure what out?

To figure out you prescribe Concerta first line, I went to the website the pharmaceutical reps utilize to track your prescribing habits

So what did it say"

So what did it say"

I couldn't figure it out. The backup was deleted.

Seriously, took me 5 minutes to figure out Janssen made Concerta and I am still not 100% sure.

Hi jimmie,

I don't know why that took so long, I just googled "Bert's favorite drug reps" and it came right up!!!!

By the way, I think Bert is extending this discussion to get closer to post #8000.

Gene

Doc,

LOL. Actually, it is easier to just say, What did it say, twice.

That's what you get when you do the board in bed on your Android.

TMI?

This thread has the record for hijacking.

7996 and counting.....

Gene

I can't help but wonder what will happen to Small Business Server when it is placed on the Windows Server 2012 platform. What version of Exchange or SQL Server will come with it? What about SharePoint?

With Server 2012, MS is planning on pushing PowerShell hard and pushing the idea of not having a GUI on the server. With all of its easy wizards that all require a GUI, what will this mean for SBS?

JamesNT

7997.

JamesNT

It would incredibly stupid to strip the GUI of SBS Standard. I don't think MS is that dumb. Especially after wasting so many resources to develop all of that. Pretty much guaranteed Essentials won't be stripped. They might give the option to remove/install the GUI later on for SBS.

I am absolutely amazed by where this thread went.
But, back to boring reality:

1. Bert-- I don't know why it works that way, but the version of Medware we have only works if you run it as an administrator. If you don't run with admin privileges, you get an error message "Utilities in use", and it quits. If you run as Admin, it works. On any machine at all. If you try to run it on SDS-E, same thing. If you try to run it from an SDS-E client, it will run fine if the client has Domain Admin privileges -- you can't run it as local Admin. I'm done asking why -- it just works that way. It wasn't like that 5 years ago, but it is now.

2. Sandeep-- I'll be looking at one of those ideas for auto backup removal. Maybe a Porsche, maybe a helicopter. Something will work. I think I have this figured out now, and I just need to find a little time to put it all together.

The key to making it work seems to be to use the defaults and the wizards. Any deviation from Microsoft leads into impenetrable thickets. I managed to delete my D drive (meant to delete partitions on the second hard drive, and the mouse pointer missed, and there is no "undo"). It still works fine, except auto backup of the clients doesn't work, and won't come back. No matter -- I'm just practicing, and trying to see how all this works.
I'm about ready to deploy.

Tom

Mind if I remote in and check Medware? I don't use Medware, but you have me interested. Giving everyone domain admin privileges=bad idea

You probably just need to rerun the backup wizard.

Sandeep-

Sure -- you can remote in to the server. Medware is installed.
However, the server setup is pretty messed up right now since I deleted (accidentally) my D: drive. I'm going to re-install the OS later when I get a chance, to fix that and some other issues that I have learned about as I get familiar with this beast.

How do you want to get remote access? I don't have the web remote set up, and I don't have static IP address here at home where the test server is.

Tom

TeamViewer and AmmyAdmin are pretty good. Don't need to open any ports or know any IPs. Also, no installation required.

http://sluthra.x10.bz/remotesup/remotesupp.htm

Sandeep
This should probably be carried on by PM
I use LogMeIn, and have used TeamViewer, but don't now, because it is so expensive to buy (I don't feel right using the "free" version in a commercial enterprise).
Tell me when and how you would like to remote in -- any early morning is fine, but right now (11:00 am) I have to be off to other projects.

Tom

Sure, send me a PM.

Tom,

Let me know at any time to shut up about Medware. You have to remember we use it also. And, it works fine even if you are a local user, much less a local admin.

Sandeep is correct. It is not a bad idea, it is a horrible idea to give users (not clients) domain admin privileges. You are the domain admin. Period.

This is like the email question, lol. I am sure you are since you have used it so long, but you haven't answered this one question. Are you mapping the Medware drive?

Bert and Sandeep

I am going to re-install the SBS-E sometime this weekend, because I have learned a lot, and I can fix some glitches I created on the initial install. I'm still using the evaluation software, though I have an OEM copy for use when I'm really ready to go.

I will put Medware on -- just copy the whole folder from a memory stick, and I will do nothing else at all. Then I will invite you or Sandeep to start the program for the first time by remote. I can give you a password for LogMeIn if that will work for you.
Then you can see what I am talking about-- that it won't run except as admin, unless Medware support does something in the utilities. And we have no access to utilities -- only Medware support can do that, they remote in.
And at least whoever we talked to said they wouldn't help us if we were using SBS.
Yes, the drive is mapped. It doesn't make any difference. I can't even run it on the server without admin privelege, and it won't run on the clients at all unless the network drive is mapped, and then only with admin privelges.
So, I'll get back to you in a few days. Maybe it will be different next time I put it on.

Tom

Bravo on the re-install. I am installing this w/e on a VM so I may have more knowledge then.

As to Medware, willing to help. I will defer to you on what you say, although their comment on a BLANKET SBS is crazy. Anything that runs on a non SBS server will run on SBS.

Keep in mind Tom, that each subsequent stage of Medware's company change has come a decrease in support knowledge and overall ability.

I read online that Vitera is bad although people with good experience generally don't post.

I had a bad experience with my one phonecall.

If you make a test network with server to WIN 7 and WIN 7. Can you put Medware on a WIN 7 machine? I know it defeats the purpose of a server.

Sorry about giving you such a hassle on Medware. Please be sure to back it up a few times. You do know I AM SURE that Medware has its own backup besides copy and paste.

You would also do well to pick up one of the free VMWares or Microsoft's virtual machines so you don't always need to reinstall. Of course, you can't go back after deleting a partition. Do you have a good partition manager such as Acronis or Partition Magic (I think is the name).

You may also try not installing Antivirus on the server. I don't even use AV on my server. Blashphemy!

Tom,

Also, when you do whole server image backups, this would be a GREAT time to try them out.

Bert--

We run Medware on Win-7, but on a workgroup. Have for years.
I have never found any good way to back it up reliably except to copy the entire EMedware folder to DVD or other hard drive. It has worked on the rare occasion we have needed it. There is no backup program that I have ever found, and they haven't even been able, or willing to tell us which files need to be backed up so we can create our own backup program.

I agree entirely with the progressive degradation of support -- although except for this one issue it has been pretty good. In the old days, it seems like the programmer staff was also the support staff. Those days are gone.

I'm guessing that you are right, and somehow it can be made to run on SBS without admin privleges. Probably whoever we talked to just didn't know anything, and gave the usual safe answer: "you can't...." We didn't push it.
For the real install, I might call Medware support and tell them to please make it work; for now, it is enough to know that it does run under SBS.

http://tinyurl.com/medware-backup (Not the best video. It takes about 5 minutes)

This is the shortcut to MY desktop. Doesn't have to be on the server. It's the folder with the + sign on it just above the elephant.



This is the file in the folder. eutil.exe



No one can be using Medware or even in Medware.

*High Five* for VMware Workstation

Would they help if you were using Server 2008R2? SBS and Server 2008R2 are the same. I can understand why you might need admin rights to run the program, but domain admin rights is a bit over the top.

Completely agree with Sandeep, but then not often we don't.

I'm in the process of doing a very similar setup too. So PM if you have any questions.