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Anyone have any new info on Tablet windows based pc's.... the new ones that are ipad like..... really not excited about logmein etc to my computer on the ipad or a laptop in the rooms and have been temporarily printing all my charts to paper....

The ASUS tablet will probably be one of the first to market in the next quarter. Based on my experiences, I expect the build quality to be good to excellent, what remains to be seen is how well the OS will function, and how useable it will be as a provider tool.

I'll post a link to reviews once they are out, along with an external link to our information.

Stay tuned, it will be interesting.

Can AC loaded and run onto the new tablet PC's like ASUS and Motorola Xoom with the Android OS

AC won't run the Xoom natively, but it will run the touch-specific LogMeIn Ignition, which will allow you to reach a Windows machine in your practice.

Several of the tablets coming out will be dual-boot, will give you the best of both worlds from an OS perspective (Win & Android), as well as a device that will be quite useable beyond the clinical setting.

IMHO, the 12" tablet size would be one to consider in theory, although I haven't actually handled or use-tested the latest.

From a performance perspective, a tablet rockin' real 4G speeds (4-12Mbps) will be a game-changer in their viable use-cases.

I would look to Hp "Good old american company" For your needs
How about an HP tm2t series notebook computer around $900. They also have Tablet PC with windows 7 pro for $800 Since its windows no need to have 3G or 4G speeds just regular wireless. If you need it you can plug in your verizon usb card go ahead its got USB and its windows

Any thoughts on the Acer Iconia W500-BZ467 Tablet

Here is another tablet for consideration. Again, it depends on your use-case.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/02/samsung-sliding-pc-7-series-now-available-for-649-amazon-pre-or/

My personal choice and I've been eying it since January is the ASUS Eee Slate EP121. i5 processor (what kills the competition), windows 7 (home premium though which you can upgrade), 64 GB SSD, it's definitely one of the more powerful tablets on the market.

And i5 processor is pretty good. Not an i7, but pretty good. My gamer laptop has an i5 w/ 4 gb, and I run, so far, any games that i want. I've seen some specs on some of the newest games that I can't, but that's more do to the graphics card i think. But I can run Star Trek online, DC Universe and City of Heroes Ultra Mode (not at full tilt, but its pretty good). Surpized to see one of those processors in a tablet.

Do you think the 12.1 inch is too big to carry around?

As was I, people think this is some sort of iPad competitor but these are meant for completely different things. The Asus tablet is designed for doing work and is even a WACOM tablet with a digitizer pen while the iPad and Xoom are more consuming media. Powerful processor and the 4GB RAM is probably very useful.

I used to have an NEC Versa Litepad, that was around 10.4" and 2.4 lbs. 12.1" does sound a little big but that's sort of necessity for the hardware inside. It also weighs about 3 pounds, but I'm used to carrying around a 10 pound, 15" laptop. It weighs about as much as an HP Mini Netbook. (2.9-3.5 lbs) Your arm will probably feel fatigued if your holding it all the time.

I am using an EP121 with the 128 SSD. As you say, very good, not underpowered like most tablets. I did Windows Anytime Upgrade to get Win 7 Pro -- very easy. Unfortunately, the battery life is pathetic, under 3 hours. The battery is wired in, can't be swapped out. So for most of the work day, I'm plugged in.

So John, the tablet looks amazing but how do you use it? Do you use it for notes? If so, do you use a bluetooth keyboard?
And if yes....why not just use, say a Portege R705 laptop?

I use it at work with AC in the patient rooms for reference, like a paper chart, since it is touchscreen and also pen input. I use it to complete the notes in my office between patients with the bluetooth keyboard. I haven't loaded Dragon on it yet, so I don't know how it will handle dictation. But it has a faster processor than my desktop, no reason it should not.

I like the specs on the Toshiba R705 laptop, but the ASUS is smaller & lighter, a true high end tablet. I have tried to carry around and set down a laptop, and its just a bit too big. I sure wish I had a bigger battery however.

John

How is the handwriting recognition with the pen? Or do you type with the on screen keyboard? Is it difficult to carry and do you think a 10 inch like the acer would be better? What percent of your note can you get done in your room with the patient?

I think Win 7 is better than the Win XP recognition on my prior Motion C5 tablet, in that it appears almost instantaneously. However, you have to write very uniformly, or it makes (often humorous) mistakes. I don't use handwriting much, because AC is not a handwriting-aware, so the text has to be written in the text recognition box and then press enter to put it into the AC window.

I do this also, although this is not as fast as the bluetooth keyboard. At least by typing the text is entered directly into the AC window. The keyboard overlaps the windows, so some scrolling is needed.


I used a 10 inch Motion C5 for several years, and the improved screen size of the ASUS more than makes up for the slightly bigger tablet. I wish I had the hot-swap battery of the C5 though! The Acer Iconia tablet is Android 3, so I don't know that you want this for running AC.


I can do the whole note on simple visits since I use mostly templates, and pen or touch entry works great clicking through the template screens. New & complex patients I do on my desktop, which has Dragon (I haven't used Dragon on the ASUS yet, mostly due to battery life).

Ok, so I took the jump and purchased this ASUS for the past 10 days. Here is my thoughts....note: coming from a desktop user not a user of previous tablets.

I planned on using this to 1) Speed up my input and 2) use in the rooms as a chart.

While my second point was successful, the screen size really was not necessary as a 10 inch and therefore a lighter machine would have been adequate (it's 2.5 pounds)

However, I was not able to complete my first objective. My handwriting must really suck as the errors were awful and the fact that you had to press "insert' to drop the words in really was slow. As far as the keyboard, didn't think I could get used to the on screen small one. (I type around 50 words a minute on a keyboard). I found that I would just use it for visualization of the chart and not to input.

Did not like the way the pad stood up in it's holder while I would use the bluetooth keyboard.

In addition, the battery life is only 3-4 hours, mandating a charge on a regular basis.

It is a beautiful machine, although, doesn't flow like an Ipad, but it's not supposed to be one and it is much more powerful.

For these reason, I RETURNED IT! A little crazy, but the store took it back and didn't even charge me the restocking fee (just lucky).

I may wait until some better machines come out...only hope to use them as charts, and not for input. Than again, may just go write on back to a good old laptop!

btw Acer's Iconia Tab W500 is windows.

Sorry to hear the ASUS Slate didn't work out for you. I don't type fast, so keyboard entry wasn't a deal-breaker for me. I use a lot of templates with only limited text entry. I have been getting the same 3-4 hour battery life as you do, which is disappointing, since you can't swap out the battery.

Something that I didn't mention, which has become an unexpected but very useful feature of the Slate, is that it is an excellent mobile computer outside the office. Anytime I am in a WiFi zone (at the hospital, a meeting, at home), I can use Hamachi to connect to AC on the office network, and also access Updox, and be working like I'm at my desk. It is much more usable than trying to connect using LogMeIn Ignition on my iPad, which was my previous method.

So despite not being the tablet computer I'd hoped for, I decided to keep the ASUS.

I may be a dinosaur, but don't forget about netbooks. I have a asus eee pc 1005ha (10 hour battery life) that I took to an assisted care living facility (ACLF) a couple weeks ago to make rounds. I like a physical keyboard as I type fast. Previously I had lugged a bag of paper charts. What a difference. The ACLF is blanketed with wifi. Much easier using the netbook via logmein free. My notes were finished back at the office. Next trip I will try using an iPad / logmein ignition (if my wife will let me borrow it for the day - haha).

Suggestion: Back seven years ago we both got Tablets with XP Tablet on them expecting to make much more use of the point, point point thing.... So we both got Gateway tablets that are convertable because those the M-275 and later the M-285 or as our Pro Version is refered to S7200-C... Turned out we really didn't use it in tablet configuration almost at all. If you by a "Tablet Only" machine you are stuck with only an over grown phone I pod thingy... Where as if you get something that is convertable, it is still a keyboard based laptop as well with a touch pad to boot... So unless you are darn sure you are going to be able to like and live, be extra happy with the Tableting version, I strongly suggest getting something that is convertable ala this new fango Dell I keep seeing ads for...

PS, My wife got her S7200C in Feb of 2006 and it is still going strong, wakes up every morning five years later with nearly a cough or weeze.... Good Equipment that you can put the key in and she turns over every morning is worth their weight in gold especially in this everything is a bucket brigaid drill business...

Paul

The HP TM-2 looks pretty good for a hybrid setup. Touch screen along with a WACOM tablet plus the keyboard.

I am new to AC, and looking for help, I am using the ASUS 121 tablet, but can not see the last 1/2cm of the encounter form page on the screen, I know that the screen resolution is set correctly, and should be high enough for this. Unfortunately this has the "sign form" buttom which is obv important -- Any thoughts? Thanks

I have the ASUS EP 121 Slate, and when I first set it up I had the same problem. The display default is set to display at 125%. To change this (on Windows 7 Pro), go to Control Panel-->Appearance and Personalization-->Display and choose "Make text and other items larger or smaller". Choose "Smaller - 100%" not "Medium - 125%". That should allow you to see the whole window.

Thanks so much! That was it- PS I don't miss July in Central Fl, hope you get some fun time at the beach :-)

Thanks, but at least we have the Gulf & Atlantic beaches on either coast. This past week sounds pretty awful in the whole Eastern US.

I'd like to hear more about the Asus tablet.

Currently using a Lenovo x200 tablet and MotionComputing LE1700. Both have been upgraded to Win7, both work pretty well. I take notes in the exam room in OneNote, then import that as an image file to AC. Later I use that as my crib sheet to finish the note in AC -- often on a different machine.

With very rare exceptions, I find that handwriting recognition doesn't keep up with note-taking, so doesn't work very well for actually completing the chart in the exam room, and with rare exceptions, my patients don't fit very well into templates, so I have evolved a sort of hybrid system. Still a work in progress.

The Motion Computing tablet is surprisingly heavy, very hot after a while, and has a very short battery life. I have a separate charger, and I have to swap batteries pretty frequently. The Lenovo is lighter, but bulkier, not so hot, and the battery life is better.

How does the Asus work? -- I heard you can't swap batteries, even though the charge life is poor.

As an alternative . . . get an iPad, use LogMeIn (have to buy the App for the iPad, but use the free service on the PC), and manipulate your desktop from the iPad. Takes a while to get used to using the iPad's on-screen keyboard (unless you add on a BlueTooth keyboard), but: (1) light weight; (2) long battery life; (3) provides full PC capabilities; (4) relatively inexpensive; (5) if need to, can sit at PC and finish what you were working on with full keyboard, mouse, etc.; (6) coolness factor of iPad. Our provider loves working this way!

Several of us who have tried or are using the ASUS Slate EP121 posted our experiences here.

Does anyone have any experience with running AC on the Dell Inspiron Duo Tablet PC.. it looks like a pretty good deal/machine for $400 or so...

any luck, or comments with Ipads, perhaps not as the main computer or data entry but to use as access while away, vacation, etc. Any thoughts would be great, if not ipad, other option? thanks

Answers here and here .

we have several in the field. light, good resolution, durable, good battery life. Get the sleave for it at walmart.

I just got the x220 by Lenovo. This laptop is amazing. I grabbed the i7 2620, 8GB RAM (G.Skill), 128 GB SSD (Crucial m4), and the 9 cell battery with external slice (6 cell). With the slice, the battery lasts over 20 hours. Without the slice, it's like 15. There is an x220 tablet, but I didn't get that one. Looks very professional and has a clean design. Good security.

Has anyone any experience specifically with Fujitsu q550 or Motion CL900 tablets?

I am using Motion LE1700 and Lenovo X200T with some success at handwriting recognition in the exam room, but I am looking for something better.

Some years ago we bought three Motion LE1600 tablets and didn't have much luck with them. They could learn to recognize handwritting, but it turns out (for us) you can teach a Dr. to type faster than you can teach a tablet to read.

I have been playing with an iPad for some tasks, signing off imported items etc. Works pretty nice. No handwritting recognition however.

Love Lenovos. In fact the word love is in it. If you happen to call support and get anyone with an IQ over 70 that is really interested in helping, please give them my phone number.

And, I have seven Lenovos.

what about the kindle fire?does it work??

The Kindl Fire runs a customized Android 2.3 Gingerbread OS, so no chance of AC running native. However, the Fire tablet can download apps from the Amazon Appstore, and there are presently 2 apps which allow control of your remote desktop computer. I have no information about the user experience, however.

In other words, you will be exploring new frontiers. Be sure to report back your experience.

We got a Fire for Android app testing on small form-factor tablets. For our purposes we immediately rooted it, so YMMV, but we find it a nice form-factor that is still quite portable.

Bigger than my Samsung Charge, but smaller than our iPad.

Like the iPad, it could be used to remote via LMI, or a web presentation of your desktop, but neither is a good fit for doing full charting.

If you are looking for something small and light I would consider the ASUS Transformer Prime.
http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-T..._8?ie=UTF8&qid=1324250759&sr=8-8
The ability to add in the docking keyboard and additional battery make it a viable laptop replacement choice.

Or to keep your costs down [$350] and get a larger screen a ChromeBook:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Wi-Fi...mp;ie=UTF8&qid=1324250982&sr=1-3

It's like I have said before, the options just keep getting better.

consider connecting using Team Viewer as it resizes the screen well and makes extended desktop a breeze to use and it is free!