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DrFirst is offering an END OF SUMMER SPECIAL, OFfer is good until 8/31 please feel free to either call me, email me or private message me through the forum. I look forward to assisting all doctor's that would liek to take advantage of this SALE!


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Umm...
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Why don't you just post your SUMMER SPECIAL OFFER prices here so everyone can see them? That would be the AC way to do business.
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Because prices are different for larger than 5 provider groups! If you really want to know more about e-prescribing, you should have no problem contacting me via one of the ways i mentioned!


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You could give the price for less than 5 provider groups, and greater than five, while indicating that there are better rates beyond that!
Oh, and fewer exclamation marks please! I know some people are chronically excited, but on a userboard it seems a bit, er, much!

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I am sorry, I have to follow certain policies and procedures in regards to disbursement of pricing. Please feel free to contact me via email or phone!!


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Giving prices individually just means that you are hoping to get different prices from different people for the same program. That way of business may be what DrFirst Rcopia wants, but that seals it for our office. When we go to e-prescribing we will be using a model that is honest and fair.


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Paul,

The reasoning behind this is not to quote different prices. We couldn't do that if we tried since our biggest marketing tool is word of mouth. The reason behind it is that we want to verify that the doctor is a doctor before we give out pricing. Basically making sure that we are not giving our prices to our competitors!


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So, you address Paul's point by admitting that your company is attempting to deter competitors from undercutting you? Exclamation indeed.

I'll consider whatever program Adam or Vicki endorse. Before that, I'm going to avoid buying into anything unless I'm forced to.

I'm optimistic though.

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I think it is reasonable that a vendor not just put a blanket price on the board. Most "software" companies charge based on users, computers, locations, etc - we are just very lucky that AC only has a set fee based on providers. I don't think bashing Jeff is really the answer.

I happen to use NewCrop because it is the one Jon offered first, but that does not mean we shouldn't look at other options. Many companies do not put their price on a website, but ask for some basic information before giving out the information.


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You're right, I agree, I'm sorry Jeff. This isn't the right forum for that kind of talk.

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It ends up being a time waster when the price isn't mentioned up front. I don't want to spend a lot of time and energy on a jaguar when I have a vw budget. And while I understand that investing time and energy promotes sales (loss aversion), it's a wasted technique on me. You can't squeeze blood from a turnip.

Besides, having to work at finding out how much something costs automatically puts me in car lot mode, which is my least preferred way of making any purchase.


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Barb,

I understand that it seems like a time waster. However if you take 5 minutes to make that call or write that email, it shows a level of commitment for acctually looking into that product. As far as are pricing, we have extremely reasonable pricing! It really comes down to the provider and if they are really looking into the product. If they are a 5 minute call is well worth it!!


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Jeff, I just visited the DrFirst RCopia site and there was no pricing info on the site. Could you e-mail me this info for 2 physicians and rural america, SW IOWA.

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I assume when a company won't tell me at least something about the prices, that they want to tie me up in a long discussion convincing me that I must have them, so that any price they state is acceptible. Or they must come out and demo it first. Or...there is always something. Having experience as a Account Mgr and consulting Director, I am familiar with "that" side of the disclose pricing situation too.

This is endemic in the s/w industry, and the medical software industry is worse in this respect than others. Your competitors will always know your price, so that is not a reason.


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Tom, I would wait for the Amazing Charts version, since it will be FREE. Best pricing available. Not disclosing prices, I agree with Wayne, is a business practice that I find foul.


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Amen.


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To Jeff,
Re: response to Barb

I'm certain you didn't mean your response to sound as if physicians while checking email/internet/answering patient related calls are NOT showing a degree of interest in a product if they should peruse a website suchas yours to find the needed information to help them make an INFORMED decision.

Do you really have an understanding of how LITTLE free time a physician has during the course of the average work day.

I do use your eprescribing program. However, I also, had to talk to a human to get the details.... In this age of information at your fingertips, you should perhaps know your marketplace better. Especially, if you are going to sell to small practices.... the docs will want to know details, we are wired that way. You waste their time, you lose the sale.


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Does anyone have any additional information on how the new eprescribing method with ac will work? Is it integrated into AC or will it be a stand alone product that links and exchanges data?

Just curious as I took the plunge with Rxcopia. It is a bit cumbersome switching screens back and forth with the programs. But, definitely better than the "free" eprescribing program put together by the consortium of companines. Also better, (IMHO) than the eCROP (sp).

Just trying to gauge how I should proceed with eprescribing when the next version of AC is available.

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Jennifer,

I believe all that is known so far is what Jon Bertman told us in his post below. It sounds great.

http://www.amazingcharts.com/ub/ubbthreads.php/posts/16019

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I was using Stumble Upon and came upon this site today, thought it was relevant, even if it was 7 years old. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20021223.html

Excerpt - "1. No Prices
No B2C ecommerce site would make this mistake, but it's rife in B2B, where most "enterprise solutions" are presented so that you can't tell whether they are suited for 100 people or 100,000 people. Price is the most specific piece of info customers use to understand the nature of an offering, and not providing it makes people feel lost and reduces their understanding of a product line. We have miles of videotape of users asking "Where's the price?" while tearing their hair out.

Even B2C sites often make the associated mistake of forgetting prices in product lists, such as category pages or search results. Knowing the price is key in both situations; it lets users differentiate among products and click through to the most relevant ones."

[Linked Image from useit.com]


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Thanks Paul. I did check out the site. When Jeff responded to my question above, he wanted me to verify that I am a Physician. I just dropped it.

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Originally Posted by GuitarPaul
I was using Stumble Upon and came upon this site today, thought it was relevant, even if it was 7 years old. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20021223.html

Excerpt - "1. No Prices
No B2C ecommerce site would make this mistake, but it's rife in B2B, where most "enterprise solutions" are presented so that you can't tell whether they are suited for 100 people or 100,000 people. ."

[Linked Image from useit.com]

Actually, when B2B do this it is definitly not a mistake. Well, let's say its definitly not done "by accident." I'm not saying that I agree with the policy. But they did it on purpose and the at least Think they know what they're doing. You and I may disagree with them though.


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