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I have started this thread for any question's you might have for DrFirst E-Prescribing. I do work for DrFirst and can assure you that my answers and valid and factual! Please feel free to post your question's as not only you might have that question but other providers on the user board.


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Thanks Jeff. Since I suggested this, I now hope that we all start asking questions. I appreciate this approach.


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Has your company made a demo where an AC user could see how it works ?


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Bert,

Not a problem at all.

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Yes we do have a demo, if you would like please contact me so we can speak in regards to it. Also we have several users apart of this forum that have purchased the AC Interface with us, so if they would like to chime in and state how it is going it would also be much appreciated!


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How does the demo work? Is it a matter of a rep coming to demonstrate or is there a version that can be downloaded for trial purposes at the physicians' leisure?


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Paul,

I have two different demo's. one woudl be a Live Demo where its a webex and the other is what I call a quick demo its about 8 minutes long and is a windows media player that can be watched at the providers leisure!


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It would be so much easier if there were a demo version the providers could play with, but could not actually send scripts or something.


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I agree.


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We do not have that available as that does use server space. I can however state that since i have been here which is a year now and has been the quite busy do to the Incentive from Medicare I have never had a doctor or group that was unhappy with our prodcut after purchase. We have doctor's everyday switch over to our product from our competitor's. We do not have very much fall out at all, because and correct me if I am wrong a doctor wants something simple, powerful, fast, and EFFICIENT!


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All AC users have something already that is simple, powerful, extremely fast, and very efficient.

Adding anything to the time efficient nature of AC, by virute, slows down efficiency. Nothing can ever be more efficient than AC unless it interfaces directly w/ AC and reqires no login or added clicks to select the patient/medication/pharmacy.

Any company that wants to sell a product to savvy physicians (those who use AC) needs a free demo that can actually be "played with." You see, AC has a full version that can be demo'd. A full version that ANYONE can use indefinitely. A time limit only begins once more than 10 patients are registered into AC. Speaking for many (not all) AC users, if we are going to pay for a product to add to AC we will expect to have full demo possibilities. Many of us will want to play around with it 1st before going live in our office.

Speaking for virtually everyone on AC, we don't want to pay money for a service that slows us down. Show us the time savings and see how it compares to the already fast nature of AC.


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Maybe no one else on this forum doesn't want to say this out of politeness, so I speak for myself on this one.

I have an issue w/ a company advertising their product on our AC user forum. I'm certain not all of my AC user-colleagues will agree w/ me on this. But I would prefer if AC users were leading the discussions about thise E-Rx interfaces, not sellers of their products.


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Originally Posted by Lauer_DO
Maybe no one else on this forum doesn't want to say this out of politeness, so I speak for myself on this one.

I have an issue w/ a company advertising their product on our AC user forum. I'm certain not all of my AC user-colleagues will agree w/ me on this. But I would prefer if AC users were leading the discussions about thise E-Rx interfaces, not sellers of their products.


I do. This stream was started because I commented on the same thing when I realized that several of the comments were by the vendor. There are too many important internal issues to have to sift through the vendors.

I still hope for a private area for subscribers and a public area where vendors can interact with us. That way we wouldn't have to try to sort it out.


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Vicki and Adam,

At first, I took the same approach you both did. Now, I didn't go off on Jeff as far as being on here, but I was pretty harsh on his product. You can ask him. I did contact Jeff and at least ask that he start a thread for his comments, making it very clear what company he represented and that he was there fore questions and answers. This differed from his jumping into the thread below:

http://www.amazingcharts.com/ub/ubbthreads.php/topics/15072/Re_AC_and_Allscripts#Post15072

I think his agreeing to and doing what I suggested solves both problems. It means that AC users can talk about any ePrescribing companies they wish without interjections from the vendors and also have access to the vendor here. Some may think this doesn't go far enough. Others may say, what the hell, why can't Jeff jump in if he wants.

I have thought about other methods to divide them without having two separate boards, which would be quite easy -- simply have an entirely separate forum for threads that have vendor comments in them. I would simply move those that were in the main forums. It would still be an equal forum. (I will talk to Jon about that).

It is a double-edged sword to say the least. I would love the opportunity to ask IMH why their product is so overpriced in real time. And, to have 20 or 30 users all tell IMH they would use their product if it were A) fixed and B) not RIDICULOUSLY priced, IMO.

So, I guess overall, my vote is to ignore if we don't wish to talk to certain vendors, and engage if we do. But, to at least ask them to start the thread and make it clear what their agenda is. Anyone writing here has/had clear knowledge that it was a thread started by Rxcopia.

Now, if we opened AC, and there were all sorts of blinking banners and pop-up ads from different companies, I would understand.

These are just my thoughts. Comments?


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Bert,

I feel a private area for the AC users would allow an open flow of information.

I don't mind the information from Jeff (I choose not to go with DrFirst or another vendor at this time) but I feel that users should have an area where vendors are not given access.

Just my paranoia.


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I think logistically, the best way to do that would be with a separate forum. It would really be hard to log into two different boards and to check on each, etc.


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All,

I am sorry for the inconvenience, obviously my post to answer questions has become a post on why I shouldn't be allowed to interact with the doctor's. I have complied with the board rules and what Bert had asked me to do, so I do not see the problem. I will keep this thread open for Q & A. Again sorry for the inconvenience!


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Jeff,

I think what you are doing is alright. I am very pleased with your original post. I also understand the others' feelings and just as we are going back and forth with you, I welcome their thoughts. I have a good idea, and I am thinking about implementing it soon.

As you know, truly no one has given you a hard time than I. And, my comments in no way should be taken to be unsympathetic toward Adam and Vicki. I understand their comments as well.

Unless a change comes down from a meeting on high with the mods and Jon, I would feel free to post. (And, when I say that, I mean discussions with the mods, etc. based on user input, of course).

The key is no matter what the feelings are either way, I still see many asking questions and getting answers. AND SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS EVEN CONVINCE USERS TO not use your product. smile


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Bert,

Thank you. As I orignally said my presence here is for E-Prescribing, whether or not it be with DrFirst or another vendor. I have helped several doctors using AC to implement DrFirst, which made me think why not enter this forum since I recieve calls everyday from AC users that think New Crop is cumbersome. Just another way of reaching out to the doctor's that might be looking to implement an E-Prescribing system!


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Also wanted to state that if you do not want to ask your questions on the thread you are more than welcome to take advantage of the private message feature. I know some of the doctor's are already doing this, however I did want to bring this up as an option!!


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I think Dr. First is a good product from what I can tell. The cost is not in the spirit of AC tho. It costs more than the whole emr and support costs. I think it is wrong that they won't even let you try it before you buy it. "Trust me...".
Anyway, whoever I talked to was very nice to me and even offered to find some kind of a discount, which still didn't make it affordable to us at this time.

It's not personal to Jeff or this product. As you can tell, I am very shy and reserved. Having vendors on here makes me inhibited from sharing my views, LOL.

Bert,
What about adding another forum besides the four that is just for vendors? That way, if we want to go there, we could. If vendors access to the other 4 streams could be limited that would be ideal.


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Vicki,

I was the one who spoke with you back in June. I understand where your coming from with the costs, but please remember the interface is a one time fee. Unless your planning on getting rid of AC it wouldnt make sense but if you have AC for 10 yrs that one time fee is miniscule.


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I am currently using SureScripts. How does this product differ and why would I make the switch? Are we ever going to get the scheduled medication issue repaired with respect to escribing?


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Originally Posted by Vicki
What about adding another forum besides the four that is just for vendors? That way, if we want to go there, we could. If vendors access to the other 4 streams could be limited that would be ideal.
I had thought about that. I think this is the best we can do. Now that they have their own forum, I doubt a vendor would post in other forums. If so, we can take it up then.

And, while I am not the one making the rules, having a forum for feedback between AC users and vendors doesn't give carte blanche to any vendor.


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Christy,

You can't acctually use Surescripts.. Surescripts is what the vendors connect to and the doctor or hospital connects to us. The differences between system are the functionality. If possible please call and I can go into more detail. As far as the scheduled medication issue, I am not sure what you are referring to. Please explain or as I stated I will be more than willing to speak with you in regards to all matters over a phone conversation!


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Originally Posted by Bert
Originally Posted by Vicki
What about adding another forum besides the four that is just for vendors? That way, if we want to go there, we could. If vendors access to the other 4 streams could be limited that would be ideal.
I had thought about that. I think this is the best we can do. Now that they have their own forum, I doubt a vendor would post in other forums. If so, we can take it up then.

And, while I am not the one making the rules, having a forum for feedback between AC users and vendors doesn't give carte blanche to any vendor.


Thanks Bert
PS Jeff if you could convince Jon to use Dr. First, that would be super


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Vicki,

We have spoken with Jon and unfortunatly he had choosen NewCrop. That is something you would have to ask Jon about, I am sure he is aware of the doctor's using his EMR that are not wanting to use NewCrop.


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