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Leslie,
You are the expert on Paperport. I just discovered it on my Fujitsu tablet.
I want to handle images like I currently handle paper in my inbox. I currently initial in the corner and put in the staff file box to file by the end of the day. If there is anything out of the ordinary, I initial and write a comment or instructions eg repeat chem 7. This is put in a separate box for them to act on in the next hour.
Since there is the possibility that some incoming faxes will go back and forth between my staff and I, I want to have this documented on the image BEFORE they finally file it in AC. I think this is how you prefer it as well.
My question is, which of Paperport or Adobe Acrobat allows me, IN ONE KEYSTROKE to sign and move the document to the staff "to file" box, similar to what I do now with paper. I think I can configure a common "to file" box on the server but am not sure if the macros exist in Paperpoint to sign and move the document in one stroke.
Also, when you make annotations (Paperport lingo) on images, are you concerned that they are deletable even after being saved? It bothers me that the "paper trail" may not exist when I need it.
Adobe 8 is available, on academic discount for $99. I assume this is good enough and I wouldn't need Adobe 9 Acrobat for my purposes. I'd appreciate anyone's experience on this point as Adobe 9 is $300. Paperport is $99/licence.
Thank you all for any input,
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Chuck,
Well, first off let me say I have little to no experience using Adobe Acrobat, although it did come with my Scan Snap. I have messed around some with it but honestly have found Paperport to work better for me. I do not know that either will allow you to sign and move documents into a folder with one keystroke. I sign a document and then drag it into the folder I want. My staff and I pass documents back and forth frequently. I created the following Paperport folders, "Received Faxes on Server 01" "Lindsay's Folder, "Ann's Folder", "Theresa's Folder", "Physician to Sign", "Ready to Import", Refills" and "Office Documents". I am not sure I know what you mean about annotations being deleted even after being saved. I do not think I can alter the annotations I have made after I have saved them. I can go back and further annotate the document....I can even erase document text, but I cannot erase my annotations.
Again, I have little experience with Acrobat. I simply like having my documents, faxes, etc all in one place. I wish the Scan Snap were TWAIN compatible so I could scan directly into Paperport. Let me know if this helps or not.
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Leslie,
Can't you set Scansnap to scan directly to a folder in Paperport?
Then the files would imediately be in Paperport for organizing. Or you could add the folder that the Scansnap uses to Paperport.
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I haven't looked at it that closely, Benjamin. I will certainly see if that is possible. I think you can scan to some other functions such as Word. It really isn't a big deal to scan and then print to the Paperport desktop folder one desires. I will check it out.
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Paperport gets lousy reviews in Amazon.com
I've also observed the very slow time for uptake from a fax scanner. It takes minutes to go from receiving a fax to when you can actually view it in Paperport.
Is this everyone's experience? Is it the same with all PDF viewers?
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I would be interested in hearing about this too. I haven't had any direct experience actually using it yet, but it seems that deleting .pdf files by dragging to the recycle bin in paperport causes the program to crash.
That may be just me, but the reviews are disconcerting. The program is paperport 9 on XP Pro.
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This has not been my experience at all. I can hear the fax machine ring in, within a minute comes the thumbnail and then there is my fax. Personally, I have been very pleased with Paperport...especially because it did not cost me anything. It came with my MFC. Check out the licesning for Adobe...that made my decision much easier. As far as Amazon goes, they like many other sites are paid big bucks I am sure by competitors to trash other products.
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Also, I find Adobe to be much more cumbersome to use when "marking up" a document. And, Paperport is capable of putting documents in it's own folders. I don't think Adobe can do that. I do use Adobe Acrobat 8 to open the PDF files once they are in AC but I definitely like Paperport better for preparing the document prior to importation.
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LOL. Amazon.com gets lousy reviews from me on their reviews.  I have not had much of an opportunity to use Paperport. I will say that even though Adobe allows one to use its product on two PCs, it is still much more expensive than it needs to be. That is if you buy it legally. And, Leslie's right in that it is a bit cumbersome. I think it would be very helpful if you used it A LOT and if others had security certificates, etc. to make it worthwhile on the security end. I have just mortaged my house so I could use the equity to buy Adobe 9.0 Pro Extended. It got really good reviews from CNET and other review articles. It's supposed to be incredible so I will be getting back. In fact it is so incredible, I think you could live in it, so I don't have to worry about my house. I will leave Paperport to Leslie, the bonafide expert.
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I should mention that my problem was due to an overfilled recycle bin on the computer that I was using the software on. It seems useful again.
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Good to hear you got the problem solved. Amazing how many times it turns out to be something so simple.
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Hi,
I'm about 2/3 of the way through the free evaluation period for AC, and just coming out of lurk mode.
Since Paperport was bundled with your machine, I assume it is the standard version and not the professional edition - is this correct? I've been browsing around the Nuance site and trying to decide which version I really need.
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Paperport SE version 9
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I also vouch for paperport. Also rec'd with my Brother MFC. I find it to be magical. Do all that Leslie does with it and have same version. In regard to the question about being able to delete annotations- I have found that even after saving, the annotations can be deleted- so the "paper" trail is questionable. I just tested it again.. annotated, saved, opened with paperport and then I can delete whatever I just added.
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You may be interested in hearing that the pay for version of PDF-Xchange PDF viewer has an option to flatten the comments. Thus making them unchangable... well  , as much as a PDF can be. I can only assume that Adobe Acrobat has the same feature I just haven't used it enough to find it yet. PS I'm typing this from within an imported items window.
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Carla is correct. Even after saving, the annotations can be deleted while the document is in Paperport. Once it is imported into the chart however, the changes are "permanent". Even with Adobe, I know of no completely secure way to markup a document. I can take an Adobe document from AC, print it to Paperport, mark it up and reimport it back to AC. It would then have to be signed off again by me and the original deleted but if I were the one with criminal/unethical intent, too bad. So, I think there will be security issues in any program.
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if I were the one with criminal/unethical intent, too bad. So, I think there will be security issues in any program. Yes, there isn't much that can be done to set a picture unchangeable. Flattening the comments into the pdf before sending it to AC might give some peace of mind to a user concerned about that kind of thing. But, you're right, any unethical intent and it won't do a thing.
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